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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.29 19:54:00 -
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Well, for shooting yourself in the foot, this post comes highly rated.
Let me dismantle it.
As the member of the pirate corp you have aligned yourself with has pointed out - you should drop the pretense of respectability and admit it - your scumbags now :)
 Your sec status levels are all dropping rapidly.
Many of you are now officially outlaws and unwelcome in empire space. You are losing the protection of sentry guns and concord. You set up
You set up gatecamps and kill ANYONE who comes though - regardless of whether they are a threat
You also roam the region occasionally - camping the trade routes and entry points
You cant go round participating in pirate like activities, and still expect to be respected by the community as you were when you ran missions all day long. You've made your bed - now sleep in it. Welcome to the club :)
SKUNK
PS Im not a pirate - Om a low sec liberator. How many times do i have to tell people.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.29 20:39:00 -
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 Originally by: strive nails
ok i just watched the fraps, sadly i wasnt there.
all i see is: you have 26 ppl in gang and engage 5 BS and 1 stealthbomber. not exactly something i would post on the forums to boost my selfesteem :)
Incorect.
We engaged them
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.29 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aranbaal
Well was a damn good fight .. i arived just after you guys had jumped in. And when i had 11 of you shooting me i honestly though my tank would fail, luckily it held out and i was able to tank you till i could get out.
Damn enjoyable all round.
Cant wait for the next one
He didnt put the fraps of that fight up unfortunalty - and instead chose a suicide mission we did 2 weeks ago.
Last nights fight wouldnt have looked to good for his claims of 'owning aridia'
But yeah gf to all.
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.29 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: deanmrd
Originally by: strive nails
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: strive nails
ok i just watched the fraps, sadly i wasnt there.
all i see is: you have 26 ppl in gang and engage 5 BS and 1 stealthbomber. not exactly something i would post on the forums to boost my selfesteem :)
Incorect.
We engaged them
SKUNK
what were you thinking
yea guy you had spy alt in system before this went down. You know how meny ppl we had on the gate. Why did you come into our system knowing this. Beside this was no way an boosting.
Because the previous 10 times we have fought against your lot we have done in vastly outnumbered. Its fun to charge into bigger numbers and see what you can do. Sometimes you get a beating, sometimes you can give the bigger numbers a beating - which is doubly sweet.
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.29 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: deanmrd
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Aranbaal
Well was a damn good fight .. i arived just after you guys had jumped in. And when i had 11 of you shooting me i honestly though my tank would fail, luckily it held out and i was able to tank you till i could get out.
Damn enjoyable all round.
Cant wait for the next one
He didnt put the fraps of that fight up unfortunalty - and instead chose a suicide mission we did 2 weeks ago.
Last nights fight wouldnt have looked to good for his claims of 'owning aridia'
But yeah gf to all.
SKUNK
keep checking this post It will be here soon 
Good Good :)
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.29 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: deanmrd
le skunk points
Your SYSTEM DEFENCE claims look a little shaky when you roam 6 jumps away from your base camping the
Responce> We only headup the pipe to stop your gatecamps.
Wrong! Ive seen you come up the pipe when no gatecamp has been present, and remain to camp the gate yourself. Killing ships that are no threat to you and taking their loot.
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Point:You are losing the protection of sentry guns and concord.
Responce> You set up most of the people who follow me is already kos no gate-guns anyhow
Well if all the people you are shooting at are already outlaws, its strange how quickly all your guys sec status is dropping then isnt it? One would almost thing from the rate is was dropping your shooting non outlaws and taking their loot.
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Responce: Cskillzone is a pvp corp I will say now. I do not class my self as a pirate. I do not randsom people for isk. If the blue do that that is down to them. they are blue to us and good Friends
LOL. People maintaining the are 'not pirates' but are 'only pvpers' need to take a reality check. You are doing exaclty the same as a pirate (not shooting blues, camping gates, shooting anything not blue, taking their cargo). The "not ransoming people" is a ludicrous excuse. Many pirates dont ransom either.
Your a pirate, and those who associated with you are aiding pirating also (contrary to their stated alliance principals).
Theres nothing wrong with this, but please just admit it. And get over it.
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.29 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: deanmrd
If I recall We had the same numbers..... when we came up the pipe to pay you a visit. hey hey .. what happend then oh yes you droped a carriar on us  well I think that might of been DL or huff
Whilst I hate capital ships usage in lowsec(see many other threads) - your guys continual usage of capitals both in your home system and out has necessitated their use.
Again, I point you to the fact, you have initiated the upsetting of the status quo - and are now suffering the consequences.
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.30 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Flyinhigh
I suppose I would classify a pirate as one that:
* Hunts miners, mission runners, or anyone else conducting non-pvp activities
* Gate camps a high traffic bottle neck for the sole intention of popping non-pvp ships (ie. haulers) for their loot
* Engages in general pvp action against those that are not looking for pvp and not set up to fight back
I dont activley hunt miners, mission runners.
I dont gate camp for the sole intention of popping non-pvp ships (ie haulers) for their loot
I engage in general pvp action whith anyone - including those who ARE set up to fight back.
This would seem to pretty much make me a non pirate. I sit in one system, shooting non blues... just like you lot are doing.
Welcome to the bad side :)
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.30 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sandman
Guys? All of these mean words against eachother don't solve anything. I really think we can work out our differences and be friends. Lately, the increasing violence is just breaking my heart. There are better ways to solve our problems besides fighting! I wish we could somehow hold hands together so that we could FEEL the true warmth that exists in every one of us. Please don't fight the love that is eager to burst from your hearts and embrace your former foes, rather than heartlessly hitting those F-keys.
Make peace, not war, my brothers.
Love,
Sandman
bloody goths
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.11.30 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Siminuria
Originally by: Sandman
Guys? All of these mean words against eachother don't solve anything. I really think we can work out our differences and be friends. Lately, the increasing violence is just breaking my heart. There are better ways to solve our problems besides fighting! I wish we could somehow hold hands together so that we could FEEL the true warmth that exists in every one of us. Please don't fight the love that is eager to burst from your hearts and embrace your former foes, rather than heartlessly hitting those F-keys.
Make peace, not war, my brothers.
Love,
Sandman
This lightened my day, thanks sandy best post in this thread by a long way.
Originally by: Philipius Maximus
In response to your winning "both battles" I'd hardly say you've ever beat us. Yesterday's fight was ridiculously in your favor - we were tired of you guys running when the numbers weren't stacked tremendously in your favor.
...So you deliberately suicided your gang? Doesn't make much sense to me but then I'm not a pirate or much for pvp. Tbh, I don't think I would advertise that I had suicided a gang for no reason.
Originally by: Philipius Maximus
Nonetheless, thanks for the good fight. It was fun (althought suicidal) and we look foward to more. (But not when you cyno in the 5 carriers!  )
"If you are in a fair pvp engagement in eve, you messed up". I didn't say it first but it's true, each side seeks ways to tip the balance in their favour. If "we" cyno in carriers then that gives you a load of juicy capital targets, so stop grumbling, get your act together and use that fact to your advantage next time.
Oh, and Dean, this thread wasn't the best plan imo, like someone else pointed out, saying that you guarantee a good fight with lots of juicy things to shoot at and specifying a location to come to isn't a good idea in low sec.
Phillips post was meant to be a bit more light hearted then you took it i think siminuria. As for "deliberately suiciding a gang", I think again, you kind of missing the point. Whilst we will swoop in 10 vs 1 on unarmed haulers without shame, if theres the slightest possibility of a fight approaching fair, we will take it even if we are outnumbered.
The fight was about having a bit of a laugh, engaging superior numbers in their home system, and seeing what would happen. The result, twenty mins of pew pew and pretty even losses before we scarpered.
And I managed to get out alive for once... which is nice.
So did bloody lenny lunchmeat! His time is coming!!!
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.12.02 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 02/12/2007 00:52:47
Edited by: Le Skunk on 02/12/2007 00:52:05
Originally by: Aranbaal
Having pirates on both sides of teh fight makes it imposible to end the fighting through the payment of money as no pirate corp in the right mind would pay to end a fight, that would just be pure lame.
I hope the fighting never ends personally its keeping an area (aridia) fun when it would otherwise be pretty dull place to be for our stay there.
Its certainly a weird situation. We have:
Proud pirates like youself lying down with self confessed anit pirates and carebears who would normally be your prey in any other situation
Half of the carebears you are aligned with going outlaw and killing random passers by without a care in the world
The other half of the carebears you are aligned with declaring they are not and never will be pirates and find them repulsive (despite swallowing their distaste enough to fight with the pirates, and the carebear/pseudo pirates)
Some merc corp who have been paid by your lot to harras us and end up sat in staion camped by us in their carriers.
Some random alliance who stabbed their previous allies in the back in 0.0 before getting booted out and ignominiously forced into lowsec and browbeat the more carebearish amongst you into letting them set up deathstars in your homesystems.
Thats a whole lot of odd bedfellows - and no real purity of purpose, honour, or roleplay basis for it.
But it seems to suit you so good luck
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.12.02 17:25:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 02/12/2007 17:30:59
Originally by: deanmrd
The fact is you have jump into our gatecamps twice knowing we had 20+ numbers.
Thats very strange. This seems to totally contradict your 'allies' posts that we never fight unless we outnumber you? Another in a series of contradictions and slights, between such strange bedfellows. I suggest you form an alliance and put in some sort of command structure so you can organize a policy and discipline those who abuse it.
As has been said before, jumping into your camps outnumbered is not a mistake, its intentional. We do it for fun, and to see what we can pull off. Sometimes you get a sweet victory, sometimes you dont.
Ive sat and watched your pirate camps before. Once you didnt shoot anything apart from a rat for three hours. So thats 12 pilots x 3 hours .. 36 hours of manpower sat orbiting a gate. If only you could safely mine and mission in your home systems eh? That time could have made you a lot of isk. Unfortunately, since the more aggressive amongst you chose to break the status quo, your more isk driven, miners and mission runners have had to contented with ever present visits from recons, and are dragooned into futile iskless gate camps as cannon fodder for the pirate/notpirate pvpers amongst you.
I would have thought youd have been happy for soemthing to do when we come visit.
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.12.02 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Demon RIver
Originally by: Flyinhigh
The only one I've heard mention someone hiring mercs, is Le Sunk. No one in our consortium has mentioned anything. So possibly just more of their imaginations running wild. I'm interested as well, who these 'hired guns' are...
From what i was told someone had an ingame chat with Le shunk and he said he doesnt even knwo who the merc's are. Which is funn when they camped them in station according to the orginal post. So you may be right...
If he means who i think then they arent merc's.
Well to clear up what is obviously a hot topic for you:
One dimlow with two accounts pretending he is two people has been station hugging with two noob fit carriers outside where I dock.
Obviously, I checked into the background of this guy and found he was a merc corp. He also alluded to being paid by an 'unnamed' customer.
After 6 hours of being sat there whilst we were afk, we decided to shift him off, he immediatly docked from where he had jammed himself next to the station. We then camped him in station, whilst continuing normal business, for an hour or so before he logged. A couple of weeks later the same thing happened, accompanied by smack talk this time.
When confronted by us about being mercs first he said he could 'never reveal his contractors'. The next time he said that MALIN had asked for his assistance and he was here doing you a favor (as he knows you from before).
My reluctance to discuss this in public was in an attempt to save you from being embarrassed tbh, and also due to an uncertantity over his story.
What is certain is he spends a lot of time spinning his ships around whilst docked, He talks highly of you, and has stated that MALIN are the reason he is here.
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.12.02 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 02/12/2007 23:39:37
Originally by: Commander LoC
Hey, This dimlow you are talking about mate is me.. You think i am the same person when in real fact im not.. I invited you to come on Vent or teamspeak and you rejected several times, the names of the characters you think are the same person are Nightangel and Commander wingpop.. I dont know how to put it to you mate but your making yourself look a little stupid saying its the same person.. there is so many people in EVE who could vouch that its not the same Person, as for being station camped ? lol .. right.. w camped your guys for about 2 hours... then you got like 12 guys and 2 carriers to finally undock.. we sat there.. let you aggress us.. then you guys started sayin is that it ? cmon.. to scared now ? smacking like little girls when you say it is us who smacked :/ really mate.. before you go spreading crap like this you should get all your details right instead of blabbing random crap.. but hey whatever.. this is only forums it seems you guys have took somewhat 11 losses to DTS while DTs have took 0 to you ? seems like your owning us yeah :) good job mate really.. im proud of you. anyways say what you like , im not interested i only play this game for fun clearly some of you take it abit serious :) fly safe DL guys and friends.. btw.. stop fitting stabs to your ships lol.. as much fun as it was to see 5 of you fit stabs.. its quite lame when your fitting them to bs kos we wouldnt let you undock :) anyways.. see ya
Well, it amuses me that to defend yourself against allegation of using two accounts and pretending to be one person, you then use ANOTHER alt to post your forum thread. I certainly didnt see any "Commander LOC" outside the station.. perhaps you get confused for soem reason. But whatever.
Deconstructings your mess of words. we pull this out of it
" w camped your guys for about 2 hours... then you got like 12 guys and 2 carriers to finally undock.. we sat there.. let you aggress us.. "
Translation:
"We sat outside your station for two hours in our carriers hugging in as close as possible to the station for safety. Finally when DL/LSL people woke up and decided to attack us, we immediately docked one carrier who was in danger, and sat underneath the station jammed into a little hole. After tanking for a while, we docked and remained camped in station for the next hour. We then logged"
Im glad you play the game for fun, though i cant see how spinning your ship around in station is much fun but each to their own.
Respect on the sportsman like attidue on the forums. But you dont seem to carry this over to the actual game, where you use multilple cap ships to gank lone ships - then dock up when even remotly threatened.
I find it very amusing that someone who hates stabs so much that they write this in their corp description
"Carry STABS/caught with them you lose blue instantly. or never get Blue at a later date if asking"
Dosent see anything wrong with wedging themselves up against the stations and immediately docking when threatened.
It defys logic.Stabs are unmanly - but ganking and station hugging is the mark of a true warrior?
As for stabs, I use them whenever possible, and will continue to do so. People self important attidue when they discover i use them makes it even more enjoyable. It also defys logic.
You fit stabs to attempt to avoid the destruction of your ship.
You fit a shield booster to attempt to avoid the destruction of your ship.
OHH NO THE SHAME OF IT! HES REPPING HIS ARMOR IN A FIGHT!!
I am though, personally deeply gutted that I will never recieve blue stadnings from you.
SKUNK
EDIT: And to be fair the use of the word dimlow was uncalled for.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.12.02 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aranbaal
Ah so your so called merc's are a couple of people who came out here for some fun. Haha nice 1 ... heres me lookng for some mercs and you mean some of malins rl friends.
Ah well back to up
setting amarr pilots as it turns out there aint no mercs in the end.
Ahh right I see. You called in your real life friends to help you out. Gotcha. Your real life friends who run a merc corp, and advertise themselves as:
"Mercs / Bounty Hunters,,, Module liberators,"
This is somehow less embarrasing then paying for random mercs how?
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.12.03 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Commander LoC
Yeah like i said.. you can say what you want tbh :) we all know the truth but whatever.. enjoy your game and chill abit guys.. you seem to be taking it all abit to seriously :) and yeah i use Commander LoC to always post threads
Im actually Nightangel, i dont care if you think im wing aswell it makes no difference to me it just shows that i know you guys are abit speshal :)
anyways seriously.. stop taking the game so serious and chill out abit.. go and kill malin or sumit.. instead of camping 1 high sec gate kos you think its elite to kill noobs :/
fly safe
Thats cool mate. You carriers are welcome to sit in our station as long as you want.
We need something to hold all our paperwork down.
Adios
SKUNK
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.12.03 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/12/2007 09:45:01
Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/12/2007 09:42:51
Originally by: Aranbaal
hehe skunky u make my day time and time again.
lemme see if i have this right..
We a pirate corp have friends in another pirate corp that we sometimes go fly with and they come fly with us, so this means we called in merc's.
So by that reasoning Low Sec Lib are pirates who call on another pirate corp deaths legion to fly with them. This must mean you called in DL as mercs by your logic.
You cheer me up no end.
No can we all just leave this post alone and get on with what actually matters, the fighting. Us pirates have a living to make.
Yes I agree its time to let this thread die, and we finally are getting some sort of agreement to let it die with.
You agree they are your friends (as i stated).
You agree you called them in to help you(as i stated)
You don't disagree that there methods are ineffective and they have been station hugging and been camped in so far (ofc as friends of yours you can be forgiven for not coming right out and agreeing with it)
Im willing to accept perhaps us and the merc got off on the wrong foot and they are decent guys/gals.
So the only bone of contention we have left is whether they are mercs or not. The evidence we have
Corp description: Mercs / Bounty Hunters,,, Module liberators,,, (PirateS)
NightAngel > you know the rules- NightAngel > Mercs never reveal there clients.
They describe themselves as Mercs as their primary role in their corp description (with Pirates tacked on the end in brackets as an afterthought. This is not uncommon, as plenty of professional EVE mercs go pirating in their down time.
They intimated originally that they couldn't reveal their CLIENTS, which you've now admitted was you. This story later changed, one might surmise after some consideration of the possible embarrassment that would be felt by those who had called them in.
The isk changing hands is irrelevant. If my friend is a plumber, and I call him in to help me with my drainage. And he does this for free. Does this suddenly not make him a plumber? Nope it does not.
Please also note, that I was willing to let the merc comment drop, to save you embarrassment, but you posted several times looking for clarification.. which I believe I have done to any rational persons satisfaction
But as you say, this thread is getting old, and has run its course. Feel free to post a response ofc, and if its not too outrageous, im happy to let the thread sink to a lonely grave at the bottom of crime and punishment.
Good luck in future
SKUNK
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